Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier

Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier


Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier au Lion Li contes del Graal [PDF / Epub] ✅ Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier au Lion Li contes del Graal By Chrétien de Troyes – Capitalsoftworks.co.uk Taking the legends surrounding King Arthur and weaving in new psychological elements of personal desire and courtly manner Chrétien de Troyes fashioned a new form of medieval Romance The Knight of th Taking the legends surrounding King Arthur and weaving Enide Cligès Kindle Ð in new psychological elements of personal desire and courtly manner Chrétien de Troyes fashioned a new form of medieval Romance The Knight of the Cart is the first telling of the adulterous relationship between Lancelot and Arthur's ueen Guinevere and in The Knight with the Lion Yvain neglects his bride in his uest for greater glory Erec and Enide explores a knight's conflict between love and honour Cligés exalts the possibility of pure love outside marriage while the haunting Erec et PDF or The Story of the Grail chronicles the legendary uest Rich in symbolism these evocative tales combine closely observed detail with fantastic adventure to create a compelling world that profoundly influenced Malory and are the basis of the Arthurian legends we know todayAlternate cover for this edition.


10 thoughts on “Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier au Lion Li contes del Graal

  1. João Fernandes João Fernandes says:

    Exams are finally over time to return to books and Goodreads Will catch up on reviews as soon as I can


  2. Amanda Hupe Amanda Hupe says:

    The Arthurian Romances by Chretien de Troyes Troyes is a famous French poet known for his Arthurian work One of the reasons I combined this review is because some of his works are also in the Arthurian Legends collection above Anyway The edition I have contains the stories of Eric and Enide Cliges Lancelot Yvain and Perceval I love the stories of Erec and Enide It is full of the chivalry concept that you think of when reading anything about King Arthur Then there is Perceval and his search for the Grail I love these stories so much They are the definition of classics I am glad I got to revisit them 5 out of 5 stars


  3. Inkspill Inkspill says:

    I came across this one in my background reading of The Death of King Arthur I knew these tales have left a huge impression as King Arthur Lancelot Guinevere Merlin and Sir Gawain are still part of our literary culture but I never would have guessed its complex journey of going back and forth between two nations England and France leaving a mark on bothThe original is written in Old French poetry This modern prose translation was not as tough to read as I had feared but my bigger worry was if I could comprehend any of its intertextuality When I finished the second of five stories I realised how it was lucky I had read Peter Ackroyd’s modern retelling of tales of King Arthur first Without this I would have missed the importance of a knight and the relevance of their lifestyle and I would have completely missed how love even sensual love has an affinity to Christianity This made me think back to my reading of Tales from 1001 Nights which also tied love and sex to religion but to IslamThe first two stories Erec and Enide and Cligės are beautiful romances – with a real modern feel and page turners the last three are kind of like an adventure historical fiction Okay they weren’t always a riveting read but I found them to be just as good for filling up narrative gaps with back stories like the affair between Lancelot and Guinevere or showing a different side to a character Sir Gawain What I liked the most about this read is it introduced me to than the stock characters of King Arthur’s story I also liked how it represented women These knights with all their courage and bravery became weak and futile without the love of a woman It’s the gift of a woman’s love that powers them and energises them to beat their foe or win a challenge Without these women the knights lose their superpowers; so some of the women in these stories were just as important as the menThis book is available on Gutenberg for free but I opted for this Penguin ed because of the intro essay and notes I wasn’t disappointed the essay gave me insight to interesting facts about how and why Chrétien de Troyes ended up writing these tales facts which would have been difficult if I did not have a tiny understanding of England’s history of the Plantagenet – the period where there’s these close links to England and France after the Norman conuest It would also be in this moment where I finally understood how tales that originated in England were first recorded in writing by a French author His stories left such an impression that down the line they would be written again three centuries later by Thomas Malory an English author and whose version is better known If you’re interested in these tales you should check this one outI found this read enjoyable and at the same time helpful King Arthur and co are no longer characters that I only know by name now when I hear their names I will be able to appreciate them better Also I now have context to have a broader understanding of terms like chivalry so finally Order of the Garter is making a touch sense to me Books are brilliant I can’t imagine a world without books


  4. Luís Luís says:

    I really can't say enough in praise of this beautiful book Each poem translated into prose in a lively and vivid style The dialogue is crisp and natural and the action non stop But Chretien's intentions go even profound than merely telling cracking yarns Each is sensitive and intelligent explorations of human natureMarital love is ever an essential theme in Chretien In Erec and Enide the hero neglects his knightly reputation to devote himself to his new bride and in Yvain the hero does the opposite and neglects his bride for valour Both must set off on a series of adventures that culminate in them seeing the error of their ways and setting matters right Lancelot is an excellent story Nowhere does Chretien condemn the illicit relationship between Lancelot and Guinevere despite negative references elsewhere to the adulterous love between Tristan and Iseult In the introduction are suggested that Chretien's patroness may have proposed the theme Perhaps then Chretien was anxious not to offend the French Court At any rate he didn't finish the romance and gave it to someone else to do this ending included in this book In Perceval Chretien masterfully captures the naiveté of the young hero He delivers the most mysterious powerful and influential Arthurian story of all Here we see the holy grail the bleeding lance and the castle of maidens all of which have become essential ingredients in Arthurian lore It's unfinished state presented an irresistible challenge to later poets some of whom tried to finish it off Others went back to the beginning and offered alternative versions The only story that sometimes gets a little static is Cliges where the characters occasionally go off into protracted musings on the nature of love But once you've got past these bits which to be fair are intelligent insights it's still an excellent read All in all I hugely recommend this book And if it doesn't want to make you start exploring Mallory Von Eschenbach and the rest you've got no romance in your soul


  5. Joe Totterdell Joe Totterdell says:

    From William W Kibler’s introduction the 1991 Penguin Classics edition of Chrétien de Troye’s Arthurian Romances “Certainly no translation can hope to capture all the subtlety and magic of Chrétien’s art But one can hope to convey some measure of his humour his irony and the breadth of his vision He was one of the great artists and creators of his day and nearly every romancer after him had to come to terms with his legacy Some translated or frankly imitated today we might even say plagiarized his work; others repeated or developed motifs themes structures and stylistic mannerisms introduced by him; still others continued his stories in ever vast compilations”Written in the latter half of the twelfth century the works that compose Chrétien de Troye’s Arthurian Romances— Erec and Enide Cligés The Knight of the Cart The Knight with the Lion and The Story of the Grail—are invaluable today for functioning as the basis of the Arthurian legends with which contemporary readers are now familiar Interestingly enough as the legends have survived until today in the form of only a few manuscripts the manuscript containing the earliest and best copies of Chrétien’s romances the Annonay Manuscript was cut apart and used as filler for book bindings in the eighteenth century; only fragments of Erec and Enide Cligés The Knight with the Lion and The Story of the Grail belonging to the Annonay Manuscript have been recovered The Guiot Manuscript is the primary manuscript referred to in the English prose translations by William W Kibler and Carleton W Carroll contained within this edition of Chrétien's Arthurian RomancesChrétien did not finish writing two of the legends and although we cannot be exactly sure why this is today we have our hunches; the first of Chrétien’s unfinished tales The Knight of the Cart was actually completed by the clerk Godefroy de Lagny with the approval of Chrétien and is suspected to have been abandoned by Chrétien due to the failure of the subject matter the adulterous relationship between Lancelot and ueen Guinevere to appeal to him the reasons for why this could have been are the subject of contentious debate among literary critics and scholars while the second unfinished Arthurian legend The Story of the Grail is suspected to have been left incomplete due to Chrétien’s death for on the continuations of the legend written by other authors click hereWith Chrétien's Arthurian Romances having been originally written in octosyllabic couplets in Old French while losing the form and linguistic subtleties of Chrétien’s original verse Carroll’s prose translation of Erec and Enide and Kibler’s prose translations of the other four legends preserve the most salient thematic features of Chrétien’s romances in their explorations of courtly love adultery chivalry beauty and Christianity during medieval times with many an allusion to texts like the Bible and to characters in literature like Tristan Isolde Roland and Ganelon by the erudite Chrétien as well as to Greek writers like Sophocles and Roman writers like Ovid and Virgil in Chrétien’s literary manifestations of the Classical theme of translatio studii The contemporary reader will hopefully find these historical conceptions of love masochistic in the way that they drive the protagonist of each legend to arduously great lengths in order to achieve a certain goal fascinating despite their antiuity and obsolescence; in addition they should appreciate Chrétien’s keen penchant for deftly interlacing the narratives of his Arthurian legends and his innovation in establishing uniue motifs like the rash boon in these tales He was as far as I am aware a writer way ahead of his time


  6. Nicky Nicky says:

    I can't believe it's taken me so long to get round to reading this I've had it on my reading list for ages before I knew it'd be a set text and I'm glad I finally got round to it It isn't a novel as such of course but a set of somewhat connected stories the last one of which is unfinished I'm surprised by how great a part Gawain plays even in the stories of the other knights particularly in The Story of the Grail I don't think I've really seen him get so much attention in the grail story except as a failure in other textsIn any case I knew Erec and Enide from some other source that preserved it almost entirely almost a translation rather than a reinterpretation No surprises in this one for me This edition has a good clear translation Of course by modern logic Erec's treatment of Enide makes no sense at all and is horribly cruel I think the modern version I read had him suspecting her of infidelity and emphasising it as the reason for his treatment of her but we're not talking modern logic I hadn't read Cligés anywhere though although it was familiar from the similarities it had with Tristan and Isolde The behaviour of Fenice seems very much like a criticism of faithless Isolde; it'd have been interesting to read Chrétien's version of Tristan and Isolde if it survivedThe Knight of the Cart has survived uite well in later interpretations although it's been pruned and added to It was interesting to read this one although funny that though Lancelot is praised here he's not really present in the other texts He isn't the model of excellence that Malory makes him Gawain seems to have that roleThe Knight with the Lion is interesting I think bits of it survive I knew the story about the spring but a lot of his wandering and how he met the lion was unfamiliar to me The Story of the Grail follows the Welsh knight Perceval I can't say I really enjoyed that much with the contempt of the characters for the Welsh and the way Perceval was pretty much characterised as a simpleton But a large part of the story follows Gawain which I enjoyed a lot and most of his adventures in this story were new to meIt's kinda fun reading this and reading about how silly the whole idea of chivalry that never really existed was Idealisation or not I do love Arthuriana for its ridiculous excesses every maiden is the most beautiful in the world beautiful than Helen of Troy and every knight is the best and the most courtly in the land Medieval literature can get away with it; I'm afraid modern lit can't


  7. Greg Lico Greg Lico says:

    Arthurian romances is a particular favorite genre of mine to read Chretien de Troyes is or less the originator of some of the most famous episodes in the Arthurian mythosIn my junior year of high school I took a class on Medieval literature and it was defiantly my favorite class in high school I had a great teacher who was passionate about the subject and a class willing to learn It was there that I first read Chretien de Troyes and his stories of chivalric romance We only read one of his poems Yvain Later I bought a copy of this book and read his other four romances Lancelot is the first story to introduce Camelot's greatest knight and the love affair between him and Guinevere Percival is the first ever story to feature the Holy Grail It is the most mystical and haunting that Chretien wrote Unfortunately he died before he could finish it and we never find out if Percival obtains the GrailYvain is the best in the book In many ways it is the precursor of the modern novel Yvain is the story of a knight errant who is rejected by his wife and performs a number of heroic deeds in order to regain her love it features some very memorable episodes like Yvain fighting two demons in a haunted castle the rescue of a maid burning at the stake and Yvain's friendship with a lion I don't know by Hollywood hasn't adapted this book yet It is made for film Arthurian Romances is the fictional record of how a culture thought about how the upper classes should behave in court Courtly love was a conventionalized view of love between a knight and married woman he was supposed to love her from afar and perform deeds in her honor How often this happened in Medieval Europe is difficult to determine French poets like Chretien wrote poems like Lancelot and Yvain as how real knights should behave Reading these poems for me helps me get into the intellectual milieu of the 12th century


  8. Evan Leach Evan Leach says:

    The British may have started the whole Arthurian movement but the French really took it to the next level French writers added a number of innovations to the legend we know and love today including the character of Lancelot Chrétien introduced the character in Erec and Enide then added the whole Guinevere love wrinkle in The Knight of the Cart Both of these poems are included in this collection along with Cligès Yvain and Perceval Altogether this excellent collection contains all five of Chrétien's major poems These works were highly influential to the later development of the Arthurian legend and Camelot buffs will really enjoy this volume C'monit's first appearance of Lancelot in world literature If that piues your interest you will like this book 4 stars recommended


  9. Suzannah Suzannah says:

    It finally happenedI finally got around to reading Chretien de Troyes' Arthurian romancesEveryone has been telling me how delightful Chretien is and I've always believed them I believe them even nowRead my detailed review now at Vintage Novels


  10. Becky Becky says:

    I decided that the first book on my challenge this year was going to be one that I have been working on for like three years It's been brutal you guys I hate it Chretien was such a misogynist At one point this guy complains that women are all afraid to give in to their passions so you HAVE to rape them because even when they really want it and they ALWAYS really want it they'll always kick and scream and say no and then when you go through all that trouble they don't even thank you for it I'm not making this up it's in the book It took me so long to read because I wanted to rip my eyes out after every story Cliges was the only story that I found interesting and it has strong Romeo and Juilet overtones yeah yeah I know RJ had overtones of Cliges not the other way around but you know what I mean IDK what to tell you It's very Knights of the Round Table everything we've come to expect from these books with all the bizzarity misogyny and heroism these kinds of books entail So it does what it says on the tin It's got the same depth and symbolism as other books of its time and genre so I should rate it higher I guess But I'm not going toAlso it ends in an ellipses mid story The notes suggest Chretien may have died without finishing it and there were four people who transcribed it who added endings on to the story all of which were apparently pretty similar So that's a thing I'm not sure why I keep reading these they make me so unhappy I guess for me they're like action movies I love this genre and I want to love the stories being told but they are never FOR me I'm never the target audience and they are always full of things that act as a slap across the face One of these days I'm going to find my Mad Max Fury Road or Jupiter Ascending of King Arthur storiesBut it's not this day


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10 thoughts on “Erec et Enide Cligès Lancelot de la Charrete Li Chevalier au Lion Li contes del Graal

  1. João Fernandes João Fernandes says:

    Exams are finally over time to return to books and Goodreads Will catch up on reviews as soon as I can

  2. Amanda Hupe Amanda Hupe says:

    The Arthurian Romances by Chretien de Troyes Troyes is a famous French poet known for his Arthurian work One of the reasons I combined this review is because some of his works are also in the Arthurian Legends collection above Anyway The edition I have contains the stories of Eric and Enide Cliges Lancelot Yvain and Perceval I love the stories of Erec and Enide It is full of the chivalry concept that you think of when reading anything about King Arthur Then there is Perceval and his search for the Grail I love these stories so much They are the definition of classics I am glad I got to revisit them 5 out of 5 stars

  3. Inkspill Inkspill says:

    I came across this one in my background reading of The Death of King Arthur I knew these tales have left a huge impression as King Arthur Lancelot Guinevere Merlin and Sir Gawain are still part of our literary culture but I never would have guessed its complex journey of going back and forth between two nations England and France leaving a mark on bothThe original is written in Old French poetry This modern prose translation was not as tough to read as I had feared but my bigger worry was if I could comprehend any of its intertextuality When I finished the second of five stories I realised how it was lucky I had read Peter Ackroyd’s modern retelling of tales of King Arthur first Without this I would have missed the importance of a knight and the relevance of their lifestyle and I would have completely missed how love even sensual love has an affinity to Christianity This made me think back to my reading of Tales from 1001 Nights which also tied love and sex to religion but to IslamThe first two stories Erec and Enide and Cligės are beautiful romances – with a real modern feel and page turners the last three are kind of like an adventure historical fiction Okay they weren’t always a riveting read but I found them to be just as good for filling up narrative gaps with back stories like the affair between Lancelot and Guinevere or showing a different side to a character Sir Gawain What I liked the most about this read is it introduced me to than the stock characters of King Arthur’s story I also liked how it represented women These knights with all their courage and bravery became weak and futile without the love of a woman It’s the gift of a woman’s love that powers them and energises them to beat their foe or win a challenge Without these women the knights lose their superpowers; so some of the women in these stories were just as important as the menThis book is available on Gutenberg for free but I opted for this Penguin ed because of the intro essay and notes I wasn’t disappointed the essay gave me insight to interesting facts about how and why Chrétien de Troyes ended up writing these tales facts which would have been difficult if I did not have a tiny understanding of England’s history of the Plantagenet – the period where there’s these close links to England and France after the Norman conuest It would also be in this moment where I finally understood how tales that originated in England were first recorded in writing by a French author His stories left such an impression that down the line they would be written again three centuries later by Thomas Malory an English author and whose version is better known If you’re interested in these tales you should check this one outI found this read enjoyable and at the same time helpful King Arthur and co are no longer characters that I only know by name now when I hear their names I will be able to appreciate them better Also I now have context to have a broader understanding of terms like chivalry so finally Order of the Garter is making a touch sense to me Books are brilliant I can’t imagine a world without books

  4. Luís Luís says:

    I really can't say enough in praise of this beautiful book Each poem translated into prose in a lively and vivid style The dialogue is crisp and natural and the action non stop But Chretien's intentions go even profound than merely telling cracking yarns Each is sensitive and intelligent explorations of human natureMarital love is ever an essential theme in Chretien In Erec and Enide the hero neglects his knightly reputation to devote himself to his new bride and in Yvain the hero does the opposite and neglects his bride for valour Both must set off on a series of adventures that culminate in them seeing the error of their ways and setting matters right Lancelot is an excellent story Nowhere does Chretien condemn the illicit relationship between Lancelot and Guinevere despite negative references elsewhere to the adulterous love between Tristan and Iseult In the introduction are suggested that Chretien's patroness may have proposed the theme Perhaps then Chretien was anxious not to offend the French Court At any rate he didn't finish the romance and gave it to someone else to do this ending included in this book In Perceval Chretien masterfully captures the naiveté of the young hero He delivers the most mysterious powerful and influential Arthurian story of all Here we see the holy grail the bleeding lance and the castle of maidens all of which have become essential ingredients in Arthurian lore It's unfinished state presented an irresistible challenge to later poets some of whom tried to finish it off Others went back to the beginning and offered alternative versions The only story that sometimes gets a little static is Cliges where the characters occasionally go off into protracted musings on the nature of love But once you've got past these bits which to be fair are intelligent insights it's still an excellent read All in all I hugely recommend this book And if it doesn't want to make you start exploring Mallory Von Eschenbach and the rest you've got no romance in your soul

  5. Joe Totterdell Joe Totterdell says:

    From William W Kibler’s introduction the 1991 Penguin Classics edition of Chrétien de Troye’s Arthurian Romances “Certainly no translation can hope to capture all the subtlety and magic of Chrétien’s art But one can hope to convey some measure of his humour his irony and the breadth of his vision He was one of the great artists and creators of his day and nearly every romancer after him had to come to terms with his legacy Some translated or frankly imitated today we might even say plagiarized his work; others repeated or developed motifs themes structures and stylistic mannerisms introduced by him; still others continued his stories in ever vast compilations”Written in the latter half of the twelfth century the works that compose Chrétien de Troye’s Arthurian Romances— Erec and Enide Cligés The Knight of the Cart The Knight with the Lion and The Story of the Grail—are invaluable today for functioning as the basis of the Arthurian legends with which contemporary readers are now familiar Interestingly enough as the legends have survived until today in the form of only a few manuscripts the manuscript containing the earliest and best copies of Chrétien’s romances the Annonay Manuscript was cut apart and used as filler for book bindings in the eighteenth century; only fragments of Erec and Enide Cligés The Knight with the Lion and The Story of the Grail belonging to the Annonay Manuscript have been recovered The Guiot Manuscript is the primary manuscript referred to in the English prose translations by William W Kibler and Carleton W Carroll contained within this edition of Chrétien's Arthurian RomancesChrétien did not finish writing two of the legends and although we cannot be exactly sure why this is today we have our hunches; the first of Chrétien’s unfinished tales The Knight of the Cart was actually completed by the clerk Godefroy de Lagny with the approval of Chrétien and is suspected to have been abandoned by Chrétien due to the failure of the subject matter the adulterous relationship between Lancelot and ueen Guinevere to appeal to him the reasons for why this could have been are the subject of contentious debate among literary critics and scholars while the second unfinished Arthurian legend The Story of the Grail is suspected to have been left incomplete due to Chrétien’s death for on the continuations of the legend written by other authors click hereWith Chrétien's Arthurian Romances having been originally written in octosyllabic couplets in Old French while losing the form and linguistic subtleties of Chrétien’s original verse Carroll’s prose translation of Erec and Enide and Kibler’s prose translations of the other four legends preserve the most salient thematic features of Chrétien’s romances in their explorations of courtly love adultery chivalry beauty and Christianity during medieval times with many an allusion to texts like the Bible and to characters in literature like Tristan Isolde Roland and Ganelon by the erudite Chrétien as well as to Greek writers like Sophocles and Roman writers like Ovid and Virgil in Chrétien’s literary manifestations of the Classical theme of translatio studii The contemporary reader will hopefully find these historical conceptions of love masochistic in the way that they drive the protagonist of each legend to arduously great lengths in order to achieve a certain goal fascinating despite their antiuity and obsolescence; in addition they should appreciate Chrétien’s keen penchant for deftly interlacing the narratives of his Arthurian legends and his innovation in establishing uniue motifs like the rash boon in these tales He was as far as I am aware a writer way ahead of his time

  6. Nicky Nicky says:

    I can't believe it's taken me so long to get round to reading this I've had it on my reading list for ages before I knew it'd be a set text and I'm glad I finally got round to it It isn't a novel as such of course but a set of somewhat connected stories the last one of which is unfinished I'm surprised by how great a part Gawain plays even in the stories of the other knights particularly in The Story of the Grail I don't think I've really seen him get so much attention in the grail story except as a failure in other textsIn any case I knew Erec and Enide from some other source that preserved it almost entirely almost a translation rather than a reinterpretation No surprises in this one for me This edition has a good clear translation Of course by modern logic Erec's treatment of Enide makes no sense at all and is horribly cruel I think the modern version I read had him suspecting her of infidelity and emphasising it as the reason for his treatment of her but we're not talking modern logic I hadn't read Cligés anywhere though although it was familiar from the similarities it had with Tristan and Isolde The behaviour of Fenice seems very much like a criticism of faithless Isolde; it'd have been interesting to read Chrétien's version of Tristan and Isolde if it survivedThe Knight of the Cart has survived uite well in later interpretations although it's been pruned and added to It was interesting to read this one although funny that though Lancelot is praised here he's not really present in the other texts He isn't the model of excellence that Malory makes him Gawain seems to have that roleThe Knight with the Lion is interesting I think bits of it survive I knew the story about the spring but a lot of his wandering and how he met the lion was unfamiliar to me The Story of the Grail follows the Welsh knight Perceval I can't say I really enjoyed that much with the contempt of the characters for the Welsh and the way Perceval was pretty much characterised as a simpleton But a large part of the story follows Gawain which I enjoyed a lot and most of his adventures in this story were new to meIt's kinda fun reading this and reading about how silly the whole idea of chivalry that never really existed was Idealisation or not I do love Arthuriana for its ridiculous excesses every maiden is the most beautiful in the world beautiful than Helen of Troy and every knight is the best and the most courtly in the land Medieval literature can get away with it; I'm afraid modern lit can't

  7. Greg Lico Greg Lico says:

    Arthurian romances is a particular favorite genre of mine to read Chretien de Troyes is or less the originator of some of the most famous episodes in the Arthurian mythosIn my junior year of high school I took a class on Medieval literature and it was defiantly my favorite class in high school I had a great teacher who was passionate about the subject and a class willing to learn It was there that I first read Chretien de Troyes and his stories of chivalric romance We only read one of his poems Yvain Later I bought a copy of this book and read his other four romances Lancelot is the first story to introduce Camelot's greatest knight and the love affair between him and Guinevere Percival is the first ever story to feature the Holy Grail It is the most mystical and haunting that Chretien wrote Unfortunately he died before he could finish it and we never find out if Percival obtains the GrailYvain is the best in the book In many ways it is the precursor of the modern novel Yvain is the story of a knight errant who is rejected by his wife and performs a number of heroic deeds in order to regain her love it features some very memorable episodes like Yvain fighting two demons in a haunted castle the rescue of a maid burning at the stake and Yvain's friendship with a lion I don't know by Hollywood hasn't adapted this book yet It is made for film Arthurian Romances is the fictional record of how a culture thought about how the upper classes should behave in court Courtly love was a conventionalized view of love between a knight and married woman he was supposed to love her from afar and perform deeds in her honor How often this happened in Medieval Europe is difficult to determine French poets like Chretien wrote poems like Lancelot and Yvain as how real knights should behave Reading these poems for me helps me get into the intellectual milieu of the 12th century

  8. Evan Leach Evan Leach says:

    The British may have started the whole Arthurian movement but the French really took it to the next level French writers added a number of innovations to the legend we know and love today including the character of Lancelot Chrétien introduced the character in Erec and Enide then added the whole Guinevere love wrinkle in The Knight of the Cart Both of these poems are included in this collection along with Cligès Yvain and Perceval Altogether this excellent collection contains all five of Chrétien's major poems These works were highly influential to the later development of the Arthurian legend and Camelot buffs will really enjoy this volume C'monit's first appearance of Lancelot in world literature If that piues your interest you will like this book 4 stars recommended

  9. Suzannah Suzannah says:

    It finally happenedI finally got around to reading Chretien de Troyes' Arthurian romancesEveryone has been telling me how delightful Chretien is and I've always believed them I believe them even nowRead my detailed review now at Vintage Novels

  10. Becky Becky says:

    I decided that the first book on my challenge this year was going to be one that I have been working on for like three years It's been brutal you guys I hate it Chretien was such a misogynist At one point this guy complains that women are all afraid to give in to their passions so you HAVE to rape them because even when they really want it and they ALWAYS really want it they'll always kick and scream and say no and then when you go through all that trouble they don't even thank you for it I'm not making this up it's in the book It took me so long to read because I wanted to rip my eyes out after every story Cliges was the only story that I found interesting and it has strong Romeo and Juilet overtones yeah yeah I know RJ had overtones of Cliges not the other way around but you know what I mean IDK what to tell you It's very Knights of the Round Table everything we've come to expect from these books with all the bizzarity misogyny and heroism these kinds of books entail So it does what it says on the tin It's got the same depth and symbolism as other books of its time and genre so I should rate it higher I guess But I'm not going toAlso it ends in an ellipses mid story The notes suggest Chretien may have died without finishing it and there were four people who transcribed it who added endings on to the story all of which were apparently pretty similar So that's a thing I'm not sure why I keep reading these they make me so unhappy I guess for me they're like action movies I love this genre and I want to love the stories being told but they are never FOR me I'm never the target audience and they are always full of things that act as a slap across the face One of these days I'm going to find my Mad Max Fury Road or Jupiter Ascending of King Arthur storiesBut it's not this day

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